How to avoid 'pulling a Gosselin' with family finances
Filed under: Debt, Relationships, Celebs & Money
On Monday, Jon Gosselin said he returned $230,000 in funds to a joint account shared with his estranged wife, and reality show co-star, Kate Gosselin.
He did so because earlier this month, a Pennsylvania judge ordered Jon to return these funds, even as he continues to criticize Kate for not being forced to return money she allegedly withdrew from the couple's account.
While Gosselin has a fighting chance of quickly coming up with that much coin (through media appearances and sponsorships), most regular Janes and Joes in the midst of a divorce aren't usually able to pony up large chucks of cash all at once.
What's a regular guy (or gal) to do?
Experts say being proactive is the best offense to this financial faux pas. Former divorce attorney and mediator-turned-author of "The Complete Divorce Handbook," Brette Sember says that during divorce proceedings, all joint accounts should be changed to require both signatures for withdrawals of any types. "That will help prevent a potential problem," Sember said.
Surprisingly, Sember says it's often considered acceptable to withdraw up to half of the money in a joint account for living expenses.
"This is a good idea," she said, "if you suspect the other party might drain all the funds." It's also a good idea to open an individual account, she says, "just to keep things straight and to show where that half was spent." That can help stave off a repayment order.
It's also wise to discuss this with your attorney before withdrawing any money. As Sember explains, "Usually both sides will discuss fair 'allowances.'"
Funding the payback
"Since most people don't have the bank account balances of reality stars or other celebrities, when repayment is ordered, it's doesn't usually involve amounts in the tens of thousands," Sember said.
But a "regular" person ordered to pay back joint funds, Sember adds, might not necessarily be required to pay back all the money withdrawn from a joint account. "It all depends on what the money that was withdrawn is used for," she said.
For instance, a judge might allow the withdrawing partner funds for living expenses and not require the full amount be repaid. But money used to fund vacations, parties or new cars will likely need to be paid back.
Sember says if the money funded egregious spending (on cars, vacations, etc.), a judge might order immediate repayment. In that case, person-to-person lending is one option to generate quick cash. With most P2P services, you've got to pass a credit check. But the interest rates are often much lower than those of banks or credit cards, making it a viable option to repay joint funds fast.
"For those with a credit score of 640 to 660 or higher, P2P lending is a good option since most loans are made for less than $10,000," said Beverly Blair Harzog, co-author "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Person-to-Person Lending."
In Gosselin's case, the full amount was ordered to be repaid because Kate hauled Jon into court relatively quickly after Jon dipped into their joint funds. "That increases the likelihood he still had all or most of it to pay back," Sember said.
In most cases, however, the amount will either be subtracted from the person's final financial settlement (of assets, property, funds, etc.) or be repaid in installment payments. The most common channel for repayments is wage garnishment.
"My ex-husband drained our entire savings and checking," said Nancy Owens of Atlanta. "His wages were garnished for child support as well as for the funds he was ordered to repay."
Want to preserve your wages? If you've already spent the money, shopping for a personal loan through either your bank or credit union might be the best bet.
Divorce attorney Jane E. Lessner says in some cases, interest can be awarded; attorney fees and court costs could also be awarded.
"My ex was required to pay my additional court costs and fees to obtain the repayment order," Owens said.
So you'll want to start paying back something -- anything -- as soon as possible to save interest and additional fees from accruing.
Bottom line
Sember's advice? Play fair. "The best way to avoid trouble is by being honest," she suggests. If you're not sure you can withdraw funds, or how much to take out, don't do it without talking to your attorney first, if for no other reason than to avoid being accused of "pulling a Gosselin."
Sound off. Think Jon was justified in withdrawing the money? Do dads get a bum rap when it comes to the handling of joint funds?
Gina Roberts-Grey is a freelance writer specializing in consumer issues.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
10-28-2009 @ 8:57AM
Nezi said...
I am so sick and tired of reading/hearing about Kate and Jon Gosselin. Is the media that desperate for something to write?
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10-28-2009 @ 10:57AM
Bob said...
U read it and wrote someting about it, meaning the media is working
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10-28-2009 @ 11:19AM
Banderman said...
Women pull this prank all the time and it never makes the evening news. In fact, many times they commit worse than what is described here. Alimony is a sexist and outdated law on the books that flies in the face of 'gender equality'. Joint account means exactly that; joint account. This does not mean the money in the account is more 'hers than his'. In fact, it does not mean that if she makes more money than he that when they divorce they won't split 'her money', but if he makes more money than her, she will DEMAND her 50% split. Feminism in the United States is completely out of control and the judiciary panders to women for one reason and one reason only - their vote. The question of right and wrong never sees the light of day, the rule of law ignored. Women won't like my comments because they are accurate and hit their one-sided hypocritical nerve; the truth hurts, that's why it's called the truth. Men continue to be financially oppressed by women and illustrates the folly of 'gender equality'. Men should stay single, never marry, adopt children to avoid the absurdity of unfair and double standard custody battles and enjoy their lives and keep their earnings. This is the American dream. Why do men think women call them 'grooms'? Duh. You're groomed, dude, wake up and smell the java.
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10-28-2009 @ 12:16PM
Raggtopp said...
Hear! Hear! Elequently put! ^ 5 on your comments. I wish that I could have said what you have done such a great job doing! I've had one X who drained the accounts and nothing was done by the judge. The second got a HUGE settlement. Her lies weren't challenged. I gave away a house in both cases. Thnak God for a prenup with this last one! She has considerable assets, but I'm sure I would have been hammered once again without one! Go Jon! Go Jon go!
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10-28-2009 @ 12:42PM
nada said...
When I split with my ex- over her infidelity and she moved in w/her new squeeze, I quickly toted up the numbers that I could defend in court in terms of a 50-50 split. I then took my end for my expenses and protection. Of course, she went ballistic when she found out that her mayhem had consequences. She still had 50% of our joint assets--100's of thousands in cash--for herself and her new "beau", but I was the evildoer. Eventually, her pitbull lawyer after threatening me for months, explained to her that I had the right to do what I did and it was defensible. Just be fair and be able to defend yourself. Jon G. had no defense or a lame one at best. Have a real one and be honest.
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10-29-2009 @ 8:19AM
Devin said...
What's her's is her's, what's joint is her's, and what's your's is our's.
It's really very simple.
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11-12-2009 @ 6:48PM
AMeikle@mac.com said...
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