Consumer Ally Q&A: New Hollister jeans fell apart after one wash, now what?
Filed under: Shopping, Buyer Beware, Consumer Ally
Welcome to WalletPop's Consumer Ally, where we are on your side -- to help resolve difficult situations, explain why things happen the way they do and to try to right wrongs. If you're having a problem with a business, please send a note to ConsumerAlly@WalletPop.com. Q. My daughter's friend recently purchased jeans at Hollister. They fell apart after being washed. She tried to return them as they cost over $70. She was told that after they had been washed Hollister will not take a return. I called the corporate office on her behalf and was told that is Hollister policy. Do consumers have any rights on defective products such as these jeans?
Leah Shalna
Florida
A. The hallmark of top-flight customer service is being able to leave a bad situation and feel good. You don't see that so much these days. It is certainly reasonable to expect that any jeans will survive their first wash. And it is reasonable to expect that if they do fall apart that you would get some compensation, if not a replacement.
So, I put it to Abercrombie & Fitch, which owns the Hollister brand.
The company's response:
If a customer's merchandise is not washing, wearing, or holding up properly, we definitely want to solve the problem. Our managers are trained on how to properly handle quality returns -- they are aware that some products may not show an issue until they are washed.
We don't have a repairs department, but customers are more than welcome to have it repaired locally and send us the original bill along with the original receipt. We reimburse the customer in the form of a gift card for the repairs about three weeks after we receive all the necessary information. Our customers typically appreciate this resolution.
For the few known quality issues, the corporate customer service team will facilitate the exchange/resolution process for the customer.
In a one-off quality claim -- like the one (above), the corporate customer service team promotes a relationship between the customer and the store management and does not get involved other than documenting the issue.
--Iska Hain, Abercrombie & Fitch
How did that play with the letter writer? No so well.
Shalna's response:
I must not be a "typical customer," because this does not make me happy. This resolution would mean that we have to pay to have the pants repaired and they are falling apart in the middle of the upper thigh area not at a seam where it would be easy to hide a repair. What good is a gift card for the amount of the repair? This means she will probably have to add more money to the card to purchase an item in their store.
I have never encountered a store who refused to stand by a defective product. In this economy most retailers will stand behind their products and treat customers in a more professional manner. For the money that they charge for their products, one would expect better customer service.
The final word:
Who am I to tell a retailer how to do business? But as someone who hears complaints from consumers every day, my tip would be -- especially these days -- be nice. Every company has to measure how much goodwill it's willing to expend. Every soured customer could sour still more and the result could be disastrous. The flip side: happy customers beget more happy customers.
How much would it have cost to apologize and offer a new pair of jeans in exchange?




Reader Comments (Page 1 of 8)
7-01-2009 @ 1:05PM
Ed Miller said...
I have a 16 year old daughter. I will make sure she does not purchase Holloister jeans. I would equate Hollister's customer service to GM's.
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7-01-2009 @ 4:52PM
Zhandra said...
Sorry to disagree, but having heavy jeans material just "rip" without being on a seam just sounds fishy to me. I worked in retail management for many years, and you would not believe what people tried to return. The only way material that heavy could split is if nail polish remover were spilled on it, and the material got weakened. I have seen it happen alot, especially with teenagers. I've also had people try to return clothing that was heavily soiled (sometimes even vomit) and they would tell me bold-faced "thats the way I bought it."
Honestly, when was the last time any of you had jeans just "split?"
7-09-2009 @ 2:46PM
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7-09-2009 @ 11:16PM
Jennifer said...
I am a seamstress and know that denim is notorious for having weak areas when cheap denim is used. Contrary to what some people think. With the economy in the dumps more and more company's are using inferior products and selling them at prices that should be top grade! Regardless of that, if you bought an electronic item and plugged it in and it did not work you would take it back. Why is it that washing a clothing item once and it falling apart any different? Also, these stores tend to hire people who have no customer service skills, let alone people skills, and do not understand the value of treating the customer with some respect. Because they wouldn't exchange one pair of jeans, which is a tax write off for the store, they will not only lose that customer but also anyone they share their story with. I have been in Hollister and have never bought anything in there because of their awful fabrics and shoddy workmanship and outrageous prices for junk. No wonder the jeans fell apart after one wash!
7-10-2009 @ 1:51AM
Brien said...
Ed,
I bet you bitch alot and are a cheap ass to boot. I bet you won't go to movie once it gets a bad review. Were you there at the time these jeans were brought back? How is the store to know it was only washed once and what went on to cause damage while they were worn? Before you make assumptions why don't you go into the store and look at the clothes yourself.
7-10-2009 @ 3:44PM
Kent said...
Ed,
Based on the article, Hollister's customer service is awful, but I've had terrific experience with GM's customer service. I had 2 fuel injectors fail about 2 months and 1500 miles after the warrenty expired. I won't a blunt, but polite letter to GM, offering to accept half of the repair bill to keep me as a happy customer.
I got a check within 2 weeks for the amount I offered. Needless to say, my wife got a GM car the next year, and I'm shopping for a new GM car as we speak.
8-14-2009 @ 5:23PM
aj said...
wtf?
8-14-2009 @ 5:28PM
AJ said...
agree with kent.. GM has amazing customer service!
8-14-2009 @ 6:30PM
Jimmy said...
wow I didn't realize how ignorant the average consumer really is. I work at Hollister and there is no single pair of jeans priced over $70.00 so thats the first thing wrong with this story. There are two styles of washes that are priced at $69.50. so with tax they could slightly be over $70 For all of you saying that all the Abercrombie co. stores are known for bad costumer service is a completely ridiculous thing to say because at our store we have great customer service and we do allow returns as long as the receipt is valid, even if the merchandise has been washed and ruined we will still take it back, this story sounds completely bogus to me. This just seems like a bunch of angry middled aged women trying to complain about something.
7-06-2009 @ 9:34AM
Leah Shalna said...
Zhandra, the jeans did not "split" the material literally fell apart after being washed. I have 5 children, I purchase a great deal of clothing and believe me this has NEVER happened to me in the past. When we were in Hollister we were told that they do not accept returns after an article of clothing has been washed. Most people either wash the clothes before they wear them for the first time or certainly after wearing an article of clothing. I felt this was ridiculous. I wanted to speak with a manger, but only an assistant manager was available and he would not budge from this conviction. So, I asked for the manager's name and was told they could not give out that information. I then asked for the district manager's name and was told they do not give out names of employees at the Hollister stores. I have since heard from many unhappy people who have had similar encounters with Hollister. As far as I am concerned, this is their loss, not mine. I will no longer be a customer of Hollister or Abercrombie. There are too many other stores who deserve my business. I refuse to spend my money in a store who does not value customer service.
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7-06-2009 @ 7:15PM
judy said...
How did you pay for the jeans? If you paid by any credit card besides their credit card, you have the right to dispute the problem. This past year has been, so bad and seems to be getting worse, that I have had six disputes and won all of them. In addition, some credit card companies give you additional warranties. I paid by check twice this year and got burned both times.
Good Luck
7-09-2009 @ 12:57PM
Amanda said...
Most stores have the policy that after items are washed they can't be returned, and this is because people take advantage of the
buy something expensive weat it once and return it. JCrew even had the policy that no questions asked you can return any item whenever until people would buy items and after the season was over would return their whole wardrobe. SO they have rules for a reason. I've bought clothes from hollister and have never had the problem of them falling apart after one, two or 50 washes. Sure products have defects but chances are more than likely she wore them ripped them or snagged them and they then fell apart in the wash. Times are hard so if you allowed every person with a complaint after they washed an item return it, where would an already struggling company such as Hollister be?
7-09-2009 @ 7:59PM
jaime said...
i with you on this .. i won't shop there either.. they should give back the money or exchange .. i've had fabric fall apart like that ..defective from where fabric was made.. i've worked as a quaility controll in warehouses /manufactory's,, this is not uncommon ..that should have been chaught by quaility controll dept. before being made into pants ...etc..
7-09-2009 @ 7:52PM
Deborah said...
It is possible for fabric to rot without any noticeable wear to the naked eye. Hollister should have given you a new pair in exchange and you should further report them to the better business bureau. They will be informed of the complaint and it will score against them if anyone is inquiring about the character of the company.
7-09-2009 @ 10:23PM
keri said...
all you can do is spread the word. I beleive you. With 5 kids how could it be worth all this trouble over 1 pair of jeans. But it is not the jeans, it is about charging a premium for an defective product that you will not stand behind. That is disgusting!
7-10-2009 @ 10:11AM
Ravyn said...
Leah, I would strongly recommend you stear clear of Best Buy then, too. We bought a 40" LCD TV, took it home, had friends there to help us set it up. When we opened the box it was destroyed. To the point, the manager (when we took it back) said we must have thrown it off a balcony to cause that much damage. The box was in perfect condition, but the internal packing material was messed up. Yeah, I paid $1,500 for a tv and threw it off a balcony (this was a couple years ago). Long story short, my husband and I filed suit, got affidavits from our friends and right before trial, Best Buy relented and gave us our money back. It was certainly extraordinary circumstances, but luckily, we were not without witnesses!
7-07-2009 @ 11:42PM
Amanda said...
I'm 17 and I have also had a bad experience shopping at Hollister. I always like Abercrombie but now that I know they are owned by the same company I will not shop there anymore either.
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7-08-2009 @ 12:09AM
Ashley said...
Ripoff. There are too many places to spend my money, who needs to be treated like this? I have also seen people at Hollister treat customers who are not skinny in a rude manner.
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7-07-2009 @ 8:26PM
Alandra said...
Abercrombie/Hollister/Ruel (all owned by the same company) are notorious for bad customer service. They only care about the appearance of their employees and the store. Not customer service at all. YOu cant get an employee to help you if you beg. Being in retail for quite some time, it is common knowledge that they instruct their employees to be the "cool kids that customers want to be like" They came under scrutiny for discriminatory hiring practice against larger sized people and minorities, and their clothing's fit and wear is horrible anyway. If you like that look, definately go with American Eagle
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8-14-2009 @ 4:39PM
katherine said...
hollister has great clothes that last!!! this lady probably didnt wash them right!!! and btw the workers always are nice to me. im a teen and they respect me and my friends. also when a worker sees us they always asks if we are finding everything ok. wtf to all you who don't agree!!! oh and nordstroms is also a good place to shop!!!