Big trouble in Hong Kong: Disney all but abandons Hong Kong Disneyland
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Seeing no end to the money-hemorrhaging madness in Hong Kong, Disney is halting all plans for expansion for its park in Hong Kong. The show will go on, but it will be frozen, and nothing new will be added. About 30 Imagineers will be laid off.
Attendance in Hong Kong was never what they'd hoped. In fact, it's slid. Originally, the expectation was that people from mainland China would flood its gates, but that never quite happened. And when it did, the results haven't been golden. It's not always easy for Mainlanders to get clearance to travel to Hong Kong; generally speaking, only the wealthiest ones can or do. And inside the park, staff must continually explain to Chinese guests why it's not all right for them to urinate in the park's gardens -- they would be politely directed to the squat toilets in the bathrooms. Citizens of Hong Kong traditionally disdain Mainlanders for behavior like that (and rival Ocean Park is closer and viewed as less corporate/imperialist), so Hong Kongers have mostly avoided the park, too.
By stalling its joint venture, though, a turnaround isn't in the cards, leaving Hong Kong Disneyland the only Disney resort in the world sustained by just a single theme park. The Disney brand is showing signs of drastic erosion.
In terms of the bottom line, the surrender isn't as bad for Disney as you'd think, primarily because the company has always been wily about its investment exposure. In Hong Kong Disneyland's case, it convinced the government to put in an 80% stake of the $3.5 billion investment for just a 57% share. You can imagine how Hong Kong residents took that news. Hong Kong authorities even created massive landfill to accommodate the Mouse; the park sits on what was once a bay in the South China Sea, just 20 minutes by rail from the city. Every leaf and blade of grass was planted by human hands. Nevertheless, the majority of the financial pain will be felt by taxpayers, not Disney Parks.
I was lucky enough to be at the grand opening of the park in September of 2005. It was one of the last official bits of business overseen by Michael Eisner, although incoming CEO Bob Iger was also on hand. I thought the park, though pretty, was best described as Disney Lite: just four lands and only nine rides, several of the spinning types, like the Dumbo attraction. It has since added two more (including the first "it's a small world" to be stocked with Disney characters), but it's way behind the growth curve that its parent park experienced after opening in 1955.
The day before the opening ceremonies, I sat with Walt Disney Imagineering Executive Vice President Wing Chao, a 37-year veteran of the company, in Tomorrowland, and talked about his new baby. Seeing the Disney brand through an Asian lens was refreshing: Hotels lack unlucky fourth floors, carts serve cold watermelon juice, and you can do the Jungle Cruise in Cantonese, English, or Putonghua (Mandarin).
Although Disney execs are notoriously tight-lipped about specifics, Chao said that the Hong Kong authorities had created much more landfill than Disney was using, and that a second "gate" (industry speak for a park) and a shopping zone were in the offing. He had high hopes. On that day, the park stood in a vast field of unadorned new land. Expansion was essential. Hong Kong Disneyland is a mini Mickey.
But from an outside perspective, it appears that when it came time to talk turkey about who would fund the expansion, Disney couldn't see a bright future, and it couldn't come to terms with how much the government should shell out. The government is already under fire for pumping money into the project, so giving more wouldn't be politically savvy.
There's one other massive reason that Disney has all but given up hope on Hong Kong for now. It's the same one that Hong Kong's leaders won't say out loud: Disney has left them behind. Disney is about to officially announce that it's building a new park outside of Shanghai. Negotiations are in their final frame. Once that happens, then Disney won't have to court the massive Chinese market through the Special Administrative Region of Hong Kong. They can court the Chinese within their own country, where passports are not required.
Even before the economic turmoil, Hong Kong Disneyland drew a third of its visitors from Mainland China (plus a third from abroad, and a third from Hong Kong itself). If that crowd can get to Disneyland Shanghai easier, Hong Kong's share will plummet. Disney is on the verge of not needing Hong Kong anymore. Without expansion, its attendance won't rise, and Hong Kong Disneyland will be doomed.
The argument isn't hard to make: In a terrain as densely populated as Hong Kong, the land Disneyland sits on, which was put there using support from the state, would be better used for housing. Will that happen? Not yet. But it could. And should that happen, it would be the first Disney park in history to close.
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Attendance in Hong Kong was never what they'd hoped. In fact, it's slid. Originally, the expectation was that people from mainland China would flood its gates, but that never quite happened. And when it did, the results haven't been golden. It's not always easy for Mainlanders to get clearance to travel to Hong Kong; generally speaking, only the wealthiest ones can or do. And inside the park, staff must continually explain to Chinese guests why it's not all right for them to urinate in the park's gardens -- they would be politely directed to the squat toilets in the bathrooms. Citizens of Hong Kong traditionally disdain Mainlanders for behavior like that (and rival Ocean Park is closer and viewed as less corporate/imperialist), so Hong Kongers have mostly avoided the park, too.
By stalling its joint venture, though, a turnaround isn't in the cards, leaving Hong Kong Disneyland the only Disney resort in the world sustained by just a single theme park. The Disney brand is showing signs of drastic erosion.
In terms of the bottom line, the surrender isn't as bad for Disney as you'd think, primarily because the company has always been wily about its investment exposure. In Hong Kong Disneyland's case, it convinced the government to put in an 80% stake of the $3.5 billion investment for just a 57% share. You can imagine how Hong Kong residents took that news. Hong Kong authorities even created massive landfill to accommodate the Mouse; the park sits on what was once a bay in the South China Sea, just 20 minutes by rail from the city. Every leaf and blade of grass was planted by human hands. Nevertheless, the majority of the financial pain will be felt by taxpayers, not Disney Parks.
I was lucky enough to be at the grand opening of the park in September of 2005. It was one of the last official bits of business overseen by Michael Eisner, although incoming CEO Bob Iger was also on hand. I thought the park, though pretty, was best described as Disney Lite: just four lands and only nine rides, several of the spinning types, like the Dumbo attraction. It has since added two more (including the first "it's a small world" to be stocked with Disney characters), but it's way behind the growth curve that its parent park experienced after opening in 1955.
The day before the opening ceremonies, I sat with Walt Disney Imagineering Executive Vice President Wing Chao, a 37-year veteran of the company, in Tomorrowland, and talked about his new baby. Seeing the Disney brand through an Asian lens was refreshing: Hotels lack unlucky fourth floors, carts serve cold watermelon juice, and you can do the Jungle Cruise in Cantonese, English, or Putonghua (Mandarin).
Although Disney execs are notoriously tight-lipped about specifics, Chao said that the Hong Kong authorities had created much more landfill than Disney was using, and that a second "gate" (industry speak for a park) and a shopping zone were in the offing. He had high hopes. On that day, the park stood in a vast field of unadorned new land. Expansion was essential. Hong Kong Disneyland is a mini Mickey.
But from an outside perspective, it appears that when it came time to talk turkey about who would fund the expansion, Disney couldn't see a bright future, and it couldn't come to terms with how much the government should shell out. The government is already under fire for pumping money into the project, so giving more wouldn't be politically savvy.
There's one other massive reason that Disney has all but given up hope on Hong Kong for now. It's the same one that Hong Kong's leaders won't say out loud: Disney has left them behind. Disney is about to officially announce that it's building a new park outside of Shanghai. Negotiations are in their final frame. Once that happens, then Disney won't have to court the massive Chinese market through the Special Administrative Region of Hong Kong. They can court the Chinese within their own country, where passports are not required.
Even before the economic turmoil, Hong Kong Disneyland drew a third of its visitors from Mainland China (plus a third from abroad, and a third from Hong Kong itself). If that crowd can get to Disneyland Shanghai easier, Hong Kong's share will plummet. Disney is on the verge of not needing Hong Kong anymore. Without expansion, its attendance won't rise, and Hong Kong Disneyland will be doomed.
The argument isn't hard to make: In a terrain as densely populated as Hong Kong, the land Disneyland sits on, which was put there using support from the state, would be better used for housing. Will that happen? Not yet. But it could. And should that happen, it would be the first Disney park in history to close.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
3-18-2009 @ 12:26PM
karen said...
It seems like Disney pulled a fast one on the people of Hong Kong! It almost seems like just deserts with the way those countries over there have operated with the United states before.
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3-18-2009 @ 12:42PM
Tracy said...
What makes you think that? It's not personal it's business. The one that makes the less money but costs more to operate is the first to go. That is the bottom line for all businesses and has nothing to do with "the people of Hong Kong".
3-18-2009 @ 6:56PM
dianne said...
Not a fast one, just good business considering the location.. If it had or does turn around and do well, or is sold, the hardscape is already intact and someone will make a fortune.
3-19-2009 @ 8:19AM
righturn said...
Close down the imagineering university.
3-18-2009 @ 1:07PM
karen said...
I know it isn't personal and that it is buisness, but Disney got the government to fork out 80 % of the cost the article says for only a 57 % share. Disney had to know that it was a risky investment or they wouldn't have covered their backside like that. The sad thing though is as usual the people will end up paying, through taxes for government mistakes.
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3-18-2009 @ 1:36PM
karen also said...
The Hong Kong government had to spend all of its $ before the hand over from Britain to China, as any $ left in their coffers was going to go to the mainland. They did a lot of nonsensical projects at that time. It's hard to say whether the Hong Kong taxpayers were screwed or not-the option of giving the money back to them wasn't on the table.
3-18-2009 @ 1:17PM
bob said...
The Chinese Communist can convert Disneyland into the workers paradise park. The visitors can ride the capitolist pig ride and visit the Obama socialist chicken stand!
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3-18-2009 @ 1:44PM
Woody said...
You are a moron. Do you even know what socialisim is or are you just parroting FOX?
3-18-2009 @ 10:47PM
Organist said...
You're a complete ass. I totally agree with WOODY's comment/question, and I'll take it a step further: you have NO idea what you're talking about. It's obvious you're a weak and mindless little nothing, who relies on Fox for their latest cute little barbs about anyone who isn't them. Saaad, sad.
3-19-2009 @ 12:00AM
Jackee said...
I found your comment funny and agree with you!
3-19-2009 @ 1:07AM
Billy said...
Bob, your OK, Didn,t see anything about FOX on your post.So I guess Woody and Organist are afraid of the truth. I guess they are like Braney Frank which he himself have made tons of mistakes like other Democrats and Repuklicans in DC, but puts the blame all on the Republicans. Which facts show he has made many himself. But he knows he can do this because of the kool-aid drinking fools. I don,t care about the Democrats or the Republicans, I care for my country. People wake up or this country will not be the same country our forefathers worked so hard for.
3-18-2009 @ 1:36PM
sam said...
wait a second....peeing in the gardens? Do chinese people really do that ? like cavemen? ughhh they're so disgusting
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3-18-2009 @ 5:17PM
marla said...
they pee in the park, and poop and the park Cm's are always directing them to "not do it" I have seen them take there kids and drop poop from the back of them and walk on. Disney needed to keep the money in the USA and not over sea's ( my opinion.
3-18-2009 @ 10:13PM
Chris said...
I am an American living in Hong Kong and have travelled to Beijing, Guangzhou, and Shanghai in mainland China. I have never, ever seen an adult pee in public. It is common in mainland China for people to let their babies pee in a garden or against a wall. I would think all the environmentalists back home would applaud this as they are not filling landfills with diapers.
6-02-2009 @ 9:26AM
Kim said...
I'm afraid I have to agree. There is a lot of tension between Hong Kong people and mainland Chinese because the mainlanders have very improper etiquette. They push, shove, spit in the street...I could go on and on with what I have seen with my own eyes, but I'm sorry Chris, you may not have seen mainland adults pee in the street -- I have. I've also experienced much worse. Many mainland Chinese have very disgusting habits.
3-18-2009 @ 1:37PM
lucibyrd2 said...
How are you going to afford Dizzyworld when you only make 21 cents an hour.
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3-18-2009 @ 1:50PM
Cathy said...
Since China gave us the money for the bailout--
NO jobs here they are all in china now--
Maybe they can reopen it for US to work for food.
Have US people live in tents.
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3-18-2009 @ 1:59PM
Renata said...
It would be a pitty if they had to close it, but I don't see this happening in a near future, although in these times of economical crisis you never know.
Disneyland Parks are simply very beautiful for children, their faces light up when they are seeing their favourite cartoons live, and the closing parade.
I hope Hong Kong finds a way of earning money out of this park, so it is able to keep running and more and more children able to have the happiest days of their life sorrounded by the characters and scenarios that make them dream.
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3-18-2009 @ 2:09PM
hthwdwmgm13 said...
People should just go to Universal parks. They are all around a much better bang for the buck.
Disney has lost its way, they talk about the "Disney Way" but for far to long now the Disney Way has been that of greed, profit, and crooked business tactics. Fortunately, the company is seeing downfall of their ways.
I'm not saying the other places are perfect, but at least your business is appreciated and the others still take time to make the very best rides and shows with what they have available.
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3-18-2009 @ 10:31PM
Mickey said...
Universal can never compare with Disney World. More expensive, more walking, not enough places for older people to sit, staff not as nice, I could go on and on. There will never be anywhere as magical as Disney World. But I do think they should not keep trying to expand in this economy and should concentrate on their US parks and keep them up to the level we have come to expect.